Power Ranger Stats

[mariescott]

I thought that since this is the last season that while RPM is going on I would post some statistics about Power Rangers.

The most popular name in the PR fandom is Jason.
Jason Lee Scott, Jason David Frank, Jason Narvy, Jason Faunt, Jason Chan, Jason Smith

The most popular letter used for a ranger first or last name is T.
Tanya Sloan, Taylor Earhardt, Theo, T.J., Tommy Oliver, Tori Hanson, Trent Fernandez, Trini Kwan, Trip Regis, Tyzonn, Zack Taylor, Scott Truman, Sky Tate, Chip Thorn.

Two rangers have had the same last name but are not related.
Elizabeth 'Z' Delgado and Danny Delgado.

There have been five sets of rangers who have been related. Two sets were in the same season and one set was not.
Dana and Ryan Mitchell, Blake and Hunter, Leo and Mike, Vida and Madison Rocca, Nick, Leanbow and Udonna, RJ and Master Finn, Andros and Karone and Gem and Gemma.

There are four cases where rangers or mentors are related to villians.
Andros - Karone's brother, Lothor - Cam's uncle, Kapri And Marah - Cam's cousins, Sensei - Kapri & Marah's uncle, Mesogog/Anton - Trent's father.

There are five cases where the mentor of the team is related to one of the rangers.
Captain Mitchell - Dana and Ryan, Colonel Mason Truman - Scott, Sensei - Cam, Udonna - Nick, Andrew Hartford - Mack

There have been 17 obvious couples.
Kim and Tommy, Kat and Tommy, Tanya and Adam, Andros and Ashley, Joel and Ms. Fairweather, Wes and Jen, Princess Shayla and Merrick, Tori and Blake, Trent and Kira, Nick and Madison, Phineas and Leelee, Udonna and Leanbow, Toby and Nikki, Tyzonn and Vella, Cruger and Isinia, Lily and Theo and Dom and Fran.

Three of couples are either married or get married.
Joel and Ms. Fairweather, Udonna and Leanbow and Cruger and Isinia.

The two most popular ranger colors are red and blue.

MMPR, Aquitian, Zeo, Turbo, Space, Galaxy, Lightspeed, Time Force, Quantum, Wild Force, Ninja Storm Red, Ninja Storm Crimson, Dino Thunder, SPD B-Squad, SPD A-Squad, Mystic Force, Wolf Warrior, Overdrive, Jungle Fury, RPM.

Blue MMPR Ranger, Blue Aquatian Ranger, Zeo Ranger III, Blue Turbo Ranger, Blue Space, Galaxy Blue, Blue Lightspeed, Blue Time Force, Blue Wild Force, Blue Wind, Navy Thunder, Blue Tricera, B-Squad Blue, A-Squad Blue, Blue Mystic, Blue Overdrive, Blue Jaguar, Cyan Shark, Blue Lion.

There have been 20 - Blue, 20 - Red, 17- Yellow, 12- Green, 11- Pink, 11- Black, 7- White , 6- Silver, 4- Gold, 2 - Purple, and 1 - Orange Ranger.

Two rangers were surfers.
Katherine and Tori.

Four rangers played guitar.
Kim, Cassie, Kira and Cam.

Seven rangers could sing.
Zack, Kim, Katherine, Aisha, Tanya, Cassie, Kira, Shane and Syd.

Five rangers played some kind of instrument.
Kim - guitar, Cassie - guitar, Dustin - saxophone, Cam - guitar, Kira - guitar, Merrick - flute

There have been 83 rangers - 55 are male and 28 are female.

[SteelSpaceRanger]

Nice facts. But you missed two couples: Toby/Nikki (Necrolai's Human Form) and Dom/Fran

[ForeverBlue]

Some corrections aside from what steel told you that you missed Toby/Niki & Dom/Fran...



Correction on Cam...he does not have a quitar. The Lightning Riff Blaster that looks like a quitar was a weapon used by Cam when morphed, to call for the Mighty Mammoth Zord.

Zack doesn't sing as I don't recall him singing...he dances. As for Shane, I don't remember him singing either. Syd was under a spell that made her sing, doesn't count I'm afraid.

As for Kat, she was never a surfer...she was just having fun with Tommy and David. Other people do it just for fun when they are not really a surfer at all.

When it comes to counting the total of Rangers from all seasons and number of each colored rangers...the following that we don't count are the Phantom Ranger (he's an allied like ranger & we only saw him 7 times...if you did count him though, he doesn't count) A-quad Rangers (we only saw them a few times, they were turned evil), and the spirit rangers (they are called by the 3 masters and they only appeared a few times:

Red Rangers: actually, 17. Most fans don't count Hunter & Leanbow as Red Rangers...Hunter's and Leanbow's suite are darker red so doesn't count. No need to count A-squad Red

Blue Rangers: 17...no need to count A-squad Red, and we don't count the Blue Shark Spirit Ranger, you would have counted 19 not 20 when including those 2, not sure where you got 20 from.

Green Rangers: Only 10....leaving out the Green Elephent Spirit Ranger

Yellow Rangers: 16....leaving out A-squad Yellow

Pink Rangers: 11 is right since you didn't count A-squad Pink


For gold rangers, there is only 3...Gold Ranger from Zeo (Trey and Jason), Daggeron and then Gem. There is only 1 purple ranger...RJ.

Number of Male Rangers: 6O(Mike and Doggie should be counted, apparently you forgot to count the 4 male rangers in RPM).

Number of Female Rangers: 28

Total: 88

[(^_~) FaCe It]

How come your list of couples is full of people who just flirted but was never a couple?

And wolf warrior was not a red ranger. Solaris knight, Lienbow, Blue centurian, and Magna defender are not rangers.

[twister111]

Zack doesn't sing as I don't recall him singing...he dances.
Zack sang a duet with Kimberly. It was a "goodbye" song for Tommy. Anyways, list left out Tommy!

:cool:

[ForeverBlue]

I wasted almost an whole hour doing that post...mainly for counting each colored rangers, the male rangers and female rangers lol

Oh yeah, forgot about that....you'll have to excuse my memory lol

Tommy singing wouldn't count though as he was under that spell along with Tanya that made them sing. Tommy has never sang a song in his life for sure aside from being under a spell.

mariescott knows that Blue Senturion is a ally, she didn't count him though. She didn't count Leanbow for the number of male rangers but did count Daggeron.

As for Magna Defender....the allied Magna Defender doesn't count but Mike becoming the Magna Defender, counts. Its a mix up there, I know lol

[mariescott]

Some corrections aside from what steel told you that you missed Toby/Niki & Dom/Fran...



Correction on Cam...he does not have a quitar. The Lightning Riff Blaster that looks like a quitar was a weapon used by Cam when morphed, to call for the Mighty Mammoth Zord. Cam does have a guitar which he uses in the talent competition.

Zack doesn't sing as I don't recall him singing...he dances. As for Shane, I don't remember him singing either. Syd was under a spell that made her sing, doesn't count I'm afraid. Zack sings with Kimberly and to Angela. Shane sings in the talent competition. Syd was not under a spell. she sings in the ep. Recognition and had released an album.

As for Kat, she was never a surfer...she was just having fun with Tommy and David. Other people do it just for fun when they are not really a surfer at all.
Kat was obviously a surfer because she was competing in a surfing competition.

When it comes to counting the total of Rangers from all seasons and number of each colored rangers...the following that we don't count are the Phantom Ranger (he's an allied like ranger & we only saw him 7 times...if you did count him though, he doesn't count) A-quad Rangers (we only saw them a few times, they were turned evil), and the spirit rangers (they are called by the 3 masters and they only appeared a few times:

Red Rangers: actually, 17. Most fans don't count Hunter & Leanbow as Red Rangers...Hunter's and Leanbow's suite are darker red so doesn't count. No need to count A-squad Red.

Blue Rangers: 17...no need to count A-squad Red, and we don't count the Blue Shark Spirit Ranger, you would have counted 19 not 20 when including those 2, not sure where you got 20 from.

Green Rangers: Only 10....leaving out the Green Elephent Spirit Ranger

Yellow Rangers: 16....leaving out A-squad Yellow

Pink Rangers: 11 is right since you didn't count A-squad Pink

For gold rangers, there is only 3...Gold Ranger from Zeo (Trey and Jason), Daggeron and then Gem. There is only 1 purple ranger...RJ.

A-Squad are rangers even though we only saw them a few times. Every PR site I’ve seen has them listed as such. So they are correct added into the ranger color categories. Hunter and Leanbow are considered red. Darker red is a form of Red. Blue Shark Spirit Ranger is a ranger. Notice the word Ranger in the name. Green Elephant Spirit Ranger. Again Ranger is in the name. A-squad Yellow still a ranger. I did count A-Squad Pink. Trey and Jason are two different people which gave me four. I accidentally counted Merrick as purple so I will add him to the silver group.

Number of Male Rangers: 61 (Mike and Doggie should be counted, apparently you forgot to count the 4 male rangers in RPM). Not sure how you only counted 55.
Number of Female Rangers: 28
Total: 89

There are 118 rangers.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

but Mike becoming the Magna Defender, counts.

No he doesn't. We have proof within the series that Mike as Magna defender is NOT a ranger.

[mariescott]

Okay here’s the breakdown.

Red - 25 - Jason, Rocky, Rocko (Wild West Ranger), Aurico, Tommy, TJ, Andros, Psycho Red, Leo, Carter, Alex, Wesley, Eric, Cole, Shane, Hunter, Conner, Jack, Charlie, Bridge, Sky, Nick, Mack, Casey, Scott

Blue - 22 - Billy, William(Wild West Ranger), Cestro, Rocky, Justin, TJ, Psycho Blue, Kai, Chad, Lucas, Max , Tori , Blake , Ethan , A-Squad Blue Ranger, Sky , Bridge , Madison , Dax , Theo , Blue Shark Spirit Ranger, Flynn

Green - 11 - Tommy, Adam, Carlos, Damon, Joel, Trip, Cam, Bridge, Xander, Green Elephant Spirit Ranger, Ziggy

Black - 14 - Zack, Adam, Abraham (Wild West Ranger), Corcus, Phantom Ranger, Carlos, Black Psycho Ranger, Mike, Danny, Tommy, Anubis Cruger, Will, Bat Ranger, Dillon

Yellow - 18 - Trini, Aisha, Miss Alicia (Wild West Ranger), Tideus, Tanya, Ashley, Psycho Yellow, Maya, Kelsey, Katie, Taylor, Dustin, Kira, A-Squad Yellow Ranger, Z, Chip, Ronny, Lily, Summer

Pink - 12 - Kimberly, Katherine, Cassie, Psycho Pink, Kendrix, Karone, Dana, Jen, A-Squad Pink Ranger, Syd, Vida, Rose

White - 7 - Tommy, Delphine, Alyssa, Trent, Sam, Udonna, Dominic

Silver - 6 - Zhane, Ryan, Merrick, Nova Ranger, Tyzonn, Gemma

Gold - 4 - Trey, Jason, Daggeron, Gem

Purple - 1 - RJ

Orange - 2 - Boom and Kat

Male rangers - 75
Female rangers - 33
108 rangers.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

Gold - 4 -Daggeron



Black Mike

How does daggeron count as a ranger but lienbow doesn't? They are both knights.

And again, their is proof that Mike is not a ranger.

EDIT: I skimmed your list so I don't know whether you included these or not but did you count the turbo and LSR cyborg rangers to your list?

[Digifiend]

It's of note that ignoring the Wild West rangers, Kat is the only duplicated ranger first name. But I suppose that was a good pun, as SPD's Kat is a cat!

It should also be noted that Jason as Zeo Gold Ranger, his Sentai counterpart, Ohranger's King Ranger, was a Black Ranger. Dunno why they changed it for PRZ, maybe to avoid the duplicated morph call, though I always thought it should've been Zeo Ranger VI Black, or at least Zeo Ranger VI Gold, anyway.

[Mustang3173]

And again, their is proof that Mike is not a ranger.

What proof are you talking about? Just because he doesn't have the word "ranger" in his morphed form name?

Also what about zord statistics. Number of total zords, combinations, finishers, etc.

[Legendary.]

They didn't call the Masked Rider a ranger when he teamed up with the rangers.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

What proof are you talking about? Just because he doesn't have the word "ranger" in his morphed form name?

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No that's not the reason. The original magna defender wasn't a ranger so how could Mike be? What kind of logic is it to say Mike is a ranger when he was morphing into a power that wasn't? But what I just said isn't the proof I was referring to.

YouTube - PRLG Episode 31.1 The power of pink


The youtube link I posted is of the episode The power of pink. In the episode prior, Leo, Mike, Damon, Kai, Kendrix, Maya, and the PRIS rangers defeated Trakeena, deviot, and the psychos. But listen to what she says at about 1:33 when addressing how many rangers there were.

[Legendary.]

No that's not the reason. The original magna defender wasn't a ranger so how could Mike be? What kind of logic is it to say Mike is a ranger when he was morphing into a power that wasn't? But what I just said isn't the proof I was referring to.

YouTube - PRLG Episode 31.1 The power of pink (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7i28g--9mc&feature=related)


The youtube link I posted is of the episode The power of pink. In the episode prior, Leo, Mike, Damon, Kai, Kendrix, Maya, and the PRIS rangers defeated Trakeena, deviot, and the psychos. But listen to what she says at about 1:33 when addressing how many rangers there were.

I've never noticed that until you pointed it out.

also greatest team up evahhh!

[(^_~) FaCe It]

It took me a long time to notice it to. But now that I have it is kind of the dagger in the heart of the argument that Mike is a ranger. Unless somebody wants to argue that Trakeena was excluding Andros, Tj, Cassie, Carlos, Ashley, Leo, Maya, kendrix, Damon, or Kai instead of Mike.

There also happens to be a quote that points to Daggeron not being a ranger. There is one episode of Mystic force where this snake monster eats Madison, Chip, and Xander and right before she is about to eat Daggeron she says something to the effect of "are knights as tasty as rangers".

[Legendary.]

Ahh. I think I remember that episode.

[Digifiend]

No that's not the reason. The original magna defender wasn't a ranger so how could Mike be? What kind of logic is it to say Mike is a ranger when he was morphing into a power that wasn't? But what I just said isn't the proof I was referring to.

YouTube - PRLG Episode 31.1 The power of pink (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7i28g--9mc&feature=related)


The youtube link I posted is of the episode The power of pink. In the episode prior, Leo, Mike, Damon, Kai, Kendrix, Maya, and the PRIS rangers defeated Trakeena, deviot, and the psychos. But listen to what she says at about 1:33 when addressing how many rangers there were.Also, the other half of the team-up was called To The Tenth Power - as in ten Rangers. Zhane was absent, and Mike wasn't counted.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

Also, the other half of the team-up was called To The Tenth Power - as in ten Rangers. Zhane was absent, and Mike wasn't counted.

Yeah, very true. It there was 11 rangers why call the episode to the tenth power?

[Factor White]

And also mariescott, I noticed you counted Ryan as a silver ranger in the breakdown list. Ryan was NOT a silver ranger, he was the Titanium ranger. Titanium and Silver are two different metals and both have different colors.

[Digifiend]

No, Titanium Ranger is officially a silver ranger, it's the metallic element, not the colour that's different, same as the Mercury Ranger, another silver (In Mercury's case, it had a double meaning, as he could transform to liquid like the metal, and also Mercury is also his home - I assume not the one in our solar sytem thiough! LOL).

[King RR]

Orange - 2 - Boom and Kat



Boom was NOT a ranger.
Till what I remember he just acted being one for his parents.

There's a lot of confusion in whom we count as rangers as there are a lot of colours and people have different opinions.....

[FuuNoKami Oka]

There have been 20 - Blue, 20 - Red, 17- Yellow, 12- Green, 11- Pink, 11- Black, 7- White , 6- Silver, 4- Gold, 2 - Purple, and 1 - Orange Ranger.

Can you explain those figures for me? Because, as far as I know there are only 4 White Rangers, 2 Silver Rangers (Ryan was Titanium...there is a difference people), and where the heck did you get 2 Purple rangers, when there was never 1??:confused:

[mariescott]

RJ was purple btw. I am re-working the list but I would like to point out a few things. On Linear Rangers Mystic Force site Daggeron, Leanbow, and Udonna are listed under rangers. Linear Ranger seems to be the most reliable source on Power Rangers so I will go with what he has. I am judging the color of the ranger by the majority color of their suit if their color is not mentioned somewhere officially.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

On Linear Rangers Mystic Force site Daggeron, Leanbow, and Udonna are listed under rangers. Linear Ranger seems to be the most reliable source on Power Rangers so I will go with what he has.

Linear ranger is just a fan like the rest of us. The only difference is that he has a website. He is much like rangertalks "Darkwish" who simply posts things from sources.

There is evidence that Daggeron and Leanbow are not rangers. Their is no evidence that they are. Why don't you go from show quotes rather than a fan with a website?

[mariescott]

OK. I would like to end this argument so we can go on. I know Linear ranger is just "a fan with a website". So here's what were going to do. I am going to set up a poll and people can vote on it.

[Jiemusu]

Just because someone has a morpher doesn't mean they're automatically a ranger, just because someone is a ranger also doesn't always necessarily mean they have a morpher.

It's incredibly naive and simple to believe that.

Mike, Lienbow and Daggeron were never stated to be rangers so we have no reason to believe they are. In fact the show has hinted, even flat out told you, that they aren't rangers, so they aren't, it's as simple as that. It's what we call "canon".

No one is calling Masked Rider a ranger now are they?

[(^_~) FaCe It]

Some people believe Daggeron, Mike, and Lienbow are rangers while others believe they are not. Fact is, Mike isn't a ranger and Lienbow and Daggeron are knights, not rangers. Show quotes prove it... But, lets poll it anyway and get reasons for both arguments.


YouTube - PRLG Episode 31.1 The power of pink (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7i28g--9mc&feature=related)


The youtube link I posted is of the episode The power of pink. In the episode prior, Leo, Mike, Damon, Kai, Kendrix, Maya, and the PRIS rangers defeated Trakeena, deviot, and the psychos. But listen to what she says at about 1:33 when addressing how many rangers there were.


QUOTES FROM SOUL SPECTOR:

Daggeron: Why do you want to battle me?

Lienbow(as Koragg): To see if you are worthy of being called a knight.

*Koragg (lienbow) and Daggeron begin to battle*

Imperious: A battle of two knights, how thrilling.


QUOTES FROM HARD HEADS:

After snake monsters eats xander, chip, and madison, she grabs daggeron and says: "Are knights as tasty as rangers?" Clearly separating the two.

QUOTES FOR MYSTIC FATE:

After the master takes there powers lienbow says "he devoured our knight power" A few seconds later the master "kills" daggeron and says "Goodnight knight".

[Jiemusu]

I'll quote myself from the other thread.

Just because someone has a morpher doesn't mean they're automatically a ranger, just because someone is a ranger also doesn't always necessarily mean they have a morpher.

It's incredibly naive and simple to believe that.

Mike, Lienbow and Daggeron were never stated to be rangers so we have no reason to believe they are. In fact the show has hinted, even flat out told you, that they aren't rangers, so they aren't, it's as simple as that. It's what we call "canon".

No one is calling Masked Rider a ranger now are they?

[(^_~) FaCe It]

OK. I would like to end this argument so we can go on. I know Linear ranger is just "a fan with a website". So here's what were going to do. I am going to set up a poll and people can vote on it.

I made a thread. That way this thread can keep going with everything else and not be dominated by this one argument. Also, i made the thread because you didn't leave an option of none of them being rangers in your poll.

[Jiemusu]

Y'know, it's always better to post in an existing thread than to start a new one.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

Haha, Actually Jiemusu I was a member of a website a few years ago (i think it was powerrangersempire) and somebody argued to death that masked rider was a ranger because he morphed lol.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

Y'know, it's always better to post in an existing thread than to start a new one.

Not really, a lot of people don't even read the whole thread so they won't even know why this topic is being randomly singled out as a poll. And like I said, the options of this poll all involve counting one of those 3 as a ranger.

Plus, the who is a ranger and who isn't a ranger thread was a thread I planned on making sometime soon anyway. No better time then now.

[Jiemusu]

I hope for the PR fandom's logical sake that he was just trolling when he said that.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

No, he was actually a mod lol.

[mariescott]

I made a thread. That way this thread can keep going with everything else and not be dominated by this one argument. Also, i made the thread because you didn't leave an option of none of them being rangers in your poll.

If you don't think any if them should don't vote.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

If you don't think any if them should don't vote.

Thats not how polls work. Your suppose to leave an option for the other side of the argument to vote for not just options that makes every vote in support of what you think.

[mariescott]

Well there's no way for me to change it now.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

which is why its good that i made another thread

[Jiemusu]

Well I'll be as sure as hell to avoid this board, whatever it is, as I'll very likely lose a few brain cells just visiting the URL.

Really, the only reason people would truely consider Mike, Lienbow and Daggeron as rangers is because they wear superhero outfits in a series entitled "Power Rangers". By that logic, Morgana, hell even Tenaya 7, could be considered rangers too. And that's just absurd.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

The board closed a few years ago.

But from what I remember, most peoples arguments for why they are a ranger is because they morph. They think that if you morph, you must be a ranger.

[Jiemusu]

The board closed a few years ago.

But from what I remember, most peoples arguments for why they are a ranger is because they morph. They think that if you morph, you must be a ranger.

Haha, it figures.

True, but the outcome would perhaps be different if the show was not called "Power Rangers". Say it was called American Toku Heroes, or Henshin Heroes, fans would hear the henshin heroes from within the show referred to as rangers, but they wouldn't take the show title and use it to apply to every henshin. So when Mystic Force actually labels the heroes as knights, not rangers, under another show title they'd be less inclined to consider them as rangers.

[FuuNoKami Oka]

And there is no option stating that "None are Rangers"???

[Jiemusu]

What do you mean? The very first option is entitled "Daggeron, Lienbow, and Mike are not rangers".

[(^_~) FaCe It]

And there is no option stating that "None are Rangers"???

The first option on the poll is that they are not rangers.

[FuuNoKami Oka]

Yeah...sorry about that. Just woke up after sleeping after work...just ignore my rambling...

[Titanium Ranger]

IMO, Power Rangers are actually just people dressed in (let's call it) "protective clothing/armour", battling evil and protecting humanity and other non-hostile creatures from harm, when they're linked with a team. The power sources are all different most of the time (Lost Galaxy's Quasar Sabers, Jungle Fury's animal spirits) so there's no special definition to bind them to ranger-ness aside from the series name, the mentor thing and the colourful spandex. As for those three, I'd say that's what the term "special rangers" means. Although Mike's probably the furthest from a ranger as possible, the overall theme for them all (helmets, visors, all shaped and basic ranger spandex underneath with additional armour over it) matches the rangers' in that season. You can call RJ a Wolf Ranger and Dominic the Rhino Ranger but that wouldn't mean his colour wasn't violet or white respectively.

Similarly, I believe they're just an even more special form of special rangers than the usual specials like Ryan, Zhane, Tommy, etc (that's special thrice lol). I'm not saying other heroes battling evil (like Kamen Rider, Spiderman or something) are rangers too, but in the ranger universe, that's the way it goes for me.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

Although Mike's probably the furthest from a ranger as possible, the overall theme for them all (helmets, visors, all shaped and basic ranger spandex underneath with additional armour over it) matches the rangers' in that season.



But what about Trakeena not counting Mike as a ranger? Shouldn't what the show classifies as a ranger count as fact?

[Titanium Ranger]

But what about Trakeena not counting Mike as a ranger? Shouldn't what the show classifies as a ranger count as fact?

Good point. The only thing I can say to that is that what she saw was that technically Mike wasn't a ranger. The Magna Defender powers had nothing to do with the ranger powers of the other Galaxy Rangers. Still he was fighting with them, so what you'd call the ranger spirit was there. If I was to face the LG Rangers, I'd still count them as six instead of five. Sure, one's powers don't have the same origins as the others'; and his suit as well, but what exactly is he doing that is so different from a Power Ranger?

[(^_~) FaCe It]

I agree that Mike was apart of the team and if I were facing them I would count them as a 6 member team. And I agree that Mike, in general, is acting in a way no different than any 6th ranger would. However, that doesn't make him a ranger. You can be on a ranger team and do what a 6th ranger normally does without actually being a ranger. Being a ranger isn't about your actions and what you do, its about what you are. And what Mike was happened to be the new magna defender, not a ranger.

[Jiemusu]

At best, Mike acted as a psuedo power ranger.

I'd say honorary power ranger, but that implies he didn't have any powers.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

I don't even know why we have to consider him in that type of psuedo or honorary power ranger role at all. I mean, haven't we had enough non rangers apart of ranger teams to where non ranger teammates are about as normal as 4th/5th/6th ranger extra teammates?

[Jiemusu]

I don't even know why we have to consider him in that type of psuedo or honorary power ranger role at all. I mean, haven't we had enough non rangers apart of ranger teams to where non ranger teammates are about as normal as 4th/5th/6th ranger extra teammates?

No, what I was saying is... at the VERY BEST he could loosely be labelled as a psuedo ranger, not for what he was but for how he acted what he was. I wasn't saying everyone had to consider him a psuedo ranger, just that it's the nearest he'll ever get to rangership.

[Chriz]

No they are not. They didn't have the word "ranger" in their names and it pretty much told they are not. So no.

[Aliques!!!]

"We may not have our powers, but we're still the Power Rangers."
-Tommy (MMPR:the movie)

no matter the power as long as you're part of the team, you are a Ranger.

Daggeron and Lienbow are knights, yes, but they are also part of a team...

and I feel stupid because I clicked the wrong choice XD

[Legendary.]

None of them are rangers but they are part of the team. There is no question in that.

[Aliques!!!]

No they are not. They didn't have the word "ranger" in their names and it pretty much told they are not. So no.

What's a title? I'm saying it's the group

[-DMS-]

What was mike from?

And though leanbow and daggeron had morphers they were considered knights in the Showa not rangers. That's all I gotta day lol

[Chriz]

What's a title? I'm saying it's the group

But the title matters. On a show called "power rangers" been a ranger is important. they were similar but their entity. The rangers are the ones with "ranger" in the title. Even the Phantom ranger while looking different is a ranger based on the title, yet others e.g Masked rider. are not as they don't have the title.

[Jiemusu]

No they are not. They didn't have the word "ranger" in their names and it pretty much told they are not. So no.

This.

"We may not have our powers, but we're still the Power Rangers."
-Tommy (MMPR:the movie)

no matter the power as long as you're part of the team, you are a Ranger.

So your evidence to support Mike, Lienbow and Daggeron being debatable rangers is to take a line that an established power ranger said?

Sorry but, that's kinda flawed.

Tommy was a power ranger.

"Daggeron and Lienbow are knights, yes, but they are also part of a team...

So what if they're part of the team? Jenji is part of the team too, would you call him a ranger?

Just because they are part of a team of rangers doesn't mean they're rangers, you are what you are, not what your group dictates.

None of them are rangers but they are part of the team. There is no question in that.

Agreed.

It's not the same thing.

What's a title? I'm saying it's the group

You can't dismiss their titles, they're labelled out and spelt out right in front of you. You shouldn't ignore them just so you can pretend as many people as possible are rangers.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

No, what I was saying is... at the VERY BEST he could loosely be labelled as a psuedo ranger, not for what he was but for how he acted what he was. I wasn't saying everyone had to consider him a psuedo ranger, just that it's the nearest he'll ever get to rangership.

I know what you are saying. Im just saying that we shouldn't even have to state an "at the very best" type scenario.

"We may not have our powers, but we're still the Power Rangers."
-Tommy (MMPR:the movie)

no matter the power as long as you're part of the team, you are a Ranger.

Daggeron and Lienbow are knights, yes, but they are also part of a team...

and I feel stupid because I clicked the wrong choice XD

Why are your bringing up that quote?

And how does a non ranger being apart of the team make them a ranger? Especially when we have a quote from the show excluding a non ranger as a ranger in a team up between PRIS and LG.

Under your logic, ANYBODY can be a ranger. If ecliptor would have jumped ship and joined the PRIS team he would have been a ranger to right?

[Jiemusu]

I've seen people that claimed that Jarrod and Camille weren't rangers, but as soon as they turned good, they became rangers. Lolwut?

They stayed the same, all that changed is their allignment. There powers were not ranger powers.

I know some seasons go on about how it's what's inside that makes a ranger, and it has to come from within, but no really you need the actual ranger power otherwise it's meaningless. Otherwise I could just get really angry and passionate one day, and rush at a blind frenzy at a main villain general, would that make me... unmorphed guy fighting for others safety... a power ranger?

[Aliques!!!]

Tommy was a power ranger.

Tommy had a completely different costume and everything, but he was part of a team.

So what if they're part of the team? Jenji is part of the team too, would you call him a ranger?

He doesn't morph and he's there for attacks not to actually fight if he actually did any of that

Just because they are part of a team of rangers doesn't mean they're rangers, you are what you are, not what your group dictates.

So say team name is the Panthers... I'm a Panther. I'm one of the Panthers. Now replace Panther with Ranger in that sentence.

You can't dismiss their titles, they're labelled out and spelt out right in front of you. You shouldn't ignore them just so you can pretend as many people as possible are rangers.

So when they all line up and yell "Power Rangers!!" and the big multicolored pyrotechnics flash and the camera zooms out and they're all standing AS A TEAM, they whisper in their helmets "except for those guys"?

Oh, sorry guess my volume is always down :D

[Jiemusu]

Tommy had a completely different costume and everything.

He was actually stated to be a power ranger.

Mike, Daggeron or Lienbow never were.

It's not the same thing.

He doesn't morph and he's there for attacks not to actually fight if he actually did any of that

And did you ever see Phantom Ranger or the Psycho Rangers morph?

Morphing doesn't always equal ranger, you need to get past this.

So say team name is the Panthers... I'm a Panther

You're comparing that example to that of a 6th Ranger who isn't part of the core?

Seeing as you used Tommy as an example earlier. Say Tommy became the white ranger when the others were still using the Dinozords, does that make the White Ranger a dino ranger like the rest of his team? No, because he's a special ranger. He's not part of the core, he can easily be "removed".

So when they all line up and yell "Power Rangers!!" and the big multicolored pyrotechnics flash and the camera zooms out and they're all standing as a team, they whisper in their helmets "except for those guys"?

It's the name of the show.

If the show was called American Toku Heroes, they'd be shouting American Toku Heroes, not Power Rangers. It's the name of the show.

[Aliques!!!]

Well, let's look at the standings; the one vote for "Mike is a ranger but Daggeron and lienbow are not" was mistakenly clicked by me and my vote actually goes to "Daggeron, Lienbow, and Mike are rangers" making it 7 to 8.

[Jiemusu]

Well then we might as well just label Tenaya 7 and Morgana as rangers if we're calling anyone in PR with a funky suit a ranger.

[Aliques!!!]

And did you ever see Phantom Ranger or the Psycho Rangers morph?

Just because we didn't witness a morph doesn't mean he didn't. Jinji was a cat-genie-thing, who we knoe never morphed.

Morphing doesn't always equal ranger, you need to get past this.

Right, it's only the Mighty Morphing Power Rangers

You're comparing that example to that of a 6th Ranger who isn't part of the core?

Seeing as you used Tommy as an example earlier. Say Tommy became the white ranger when the others were still using the Dinozords, does that make the White Ranger a dino ranger like the rest of his team? No, because he's a special ranger. He's not part of the core, he can easily be "removed".

The 6th Ranger comes join the core. Are we watching the same show?

they were never called Dino Rangers. and he became the leader, try "removing" the leader

It's the name of the show.

If the show was called American Toku Heroes, they'd be shouting American Toku Heroes, not Power Rangers. It's the name of the show.

so Mike Daggeron and Lienbow would each be an American Toku Hero :P

The Thundercats was just the name of the show and they weren't actually the Thundercats?

Well then we might as well just label Tenaya 7 and Morgana as rangers if we're calling anyone in PR with a funky suit a ranger.

Who said anything about funky suits? I'm talking about a team.

[Chriz]

The Thundercats was just the name of the show and they weren't actually the Thundercats?

They were but not everyone who helped them out e.g Ro-Bear Berbils or Hachiman

[bulkmier65]

Is Claire a ranger? She's part of the team, she has a morpher, she morphs, heck she even grows, but she's not a ranger. She is referred to as the Gatekeeper, in the same way Daggeron and Leanbow are refered to as knights. Being part of the team doesn't make you a ranger.

[Jiemusu]

Just because we didn't witness a morph doesn't mean he didn't. Jinji was a cat-genie-thing, who we knoe never morphed.

By that logic, we didn't see Ninjor or Blue Senturion morph, but we've no reason to believe they didn't.

It doesn't quite work like that.

Right, it's only the Mighty Morphing Power Rangers

It's to illustrate a group of power rangers that morph.

It doesn't mean morph = power rangers

The 6th Ranger comes join the core. Are we watching the same show?

Still not fully part of the team.

Tommy was the only exception because he was defined as leader.

Apart from that, no way ever has a 6th or special ranger ever JOINED the core, they've joined the team as a new ally yes, but never the core. It's the core, then the special. It's not the same. Your panther analogy doesn't work because that whole team is a core.

So yeah. are we watching the same show?

they were never called Dino Rangers. and he became the leader, try "removing" the leader

You're not getting what I said.

Ok I'll try a different approach.

Say you took the red, black, blue, yellow and pink rangers in MMPR3 with their ninja powers, but you took the Green Ranger from MMPR1 with his dragon powers. Tommy as green is part of the ninja rangers team so, would that automatically make him a ninja ranger?

so Mike Daggeron and Lienbow would each be an American Toku Hero :P

Yes

Who said anything about funky suits? I'm talking about a team.

Don't need to be in a team to be a ranger. Tommy was a ranger as green before he joined the team.

[Aliques!!!]

By that logic, we didn't see Ninjor or Blue Senturion morph, but we've no reason to believe they didn't.

It doesn't quite work like that.

You know, I overlooked those two, but you're right, I suppose they could be

It's to illustrate a group of power rangers that morph.

It doesn't mean morph = power rangers

Don't you think that's a little obscure for a kids show? They should get a lengthier title to explain, just so we know.

Still not fully part of the team.

Tommy was the only exception because he was defined as leader.

Apart from that, no way ever has a 6th or special ranger ever JOINED the core, they've joined the team as a new ally yes, but never the core. It's the core, then the special. It's not the same. Your panther analogy doesn't work because that whole team is a core.

So yeah. are we watching the same show?

Bull, They're just as part of a team as the rest. My Panthers example works here still. If they're an established team, yeah they won't have a brother hood, but joining the panthers makes you a panther.


You're not getting what I said.

Ok I'll try a different approach.

Say you took the red, black, blue, yellow and pink rangers in MMPR3 with their ninja powers, but you took the Green Ranger from MMPR1 with his dragon powers. Tommy as green is part of the ninja rangers team so, would that automatically make him a ninja ranger?

That's if the Panthers changed there name to the Armadillos... what's in a name? It's the team. :P

Yes

So I'm Right!


Don't need to be in a team to be a ranger. Tommy was a ranger as green before he joined the team.

but being on the team makes you a ranger. you can be other things, but Team=Ranger

His Powers were created by Rita, she wanted something to confront the Power Rangers and the only way to do that was to mirror their power and she called it a Ranger, because he was similar.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

Tommy had a completely different costume and everything, but he was part of a team.



He doesn't morph and he's there for attacks not to actually fight if he actually did any of that



So say team name is the Panthers... I'm a Panther. I'm one of the Panthers. Now replace Panther with Ranger in that sentence.




-Tommy was also specifically called the white ranger.

-Morphing doesn't always equal ranger

- Those are sports teams. This is different. And if your analogy was true why didn't trakeena count mike as a ranger?

So when they all line up and yell "Power Rangers!!" and the big multicolored pyrotechnics flash and the camera zooms out and they're all standing AS A TEAM, they whisper in their helmets "except for those guys"?

Oh, sorry guess my volume is always down :D

You're trying to be a smartass but Trakeena basically did what you just said. After the big multicolored pyrotechnics flash and the camera zooms out and they're all standing AS A TEAM during the LG/PRIS team up, trakeena says "10 rangers" even though Mike was there. She didnt even whisper it so you don't have to turn your TV up.


Well, let's look at the standings; the one vote for "Mike is a ranger but Daggeron and lienbow are not" was mistakenly clicked by me and my vote actually goes to "Daggeron, Lienbow, and Mike are rangers" making it 7 to 8.

Wow 7 to 8, hell of a point you got there lol.

Just because we didn't witness a morph doesn't mean he didn't. Jinji was a cat-genie-thing, who we knoe never morphed.



Right, it's only the Mighty Morphing Power Rangers



The 6th Ranger comes join the core. Are we watching the same show?



.

-We know for a fact not every ranger morphs. The psychos didn't morph nor did the cyborg rangers.

-Mighty morphin power rangers having morphing in the name doesn't mean that everyone who morphs is a ranger. Is everybody who is mighty a ranger to?

- Its not always a 6th ranger that comes in. Sometimes its a warrior of a different type.

[Jiemusu]

so Mike Daggeron and Lienbow would each be an American Toku Hero :P

Yes

So I'm Right!

You realize you thinking you've gained victory out of this makes absolutely no sense right?

For two very important reasons.

a) Every hero in PR is an American Toku Hero. Power Rangers are a specific type of American Toku Hero.

b) You weren't fighting for Mike, Daggeron and Lienbow being a generalized status of American Toku Hero, you were specifically fighting for them being a specific catagory Power Rangers, which they aren't, as proven by the show.

So no, I can't see how you're right at all. If anything, you're wrong. And anything you feel you've claimed victory on is something I've pretty much been saying anyway, it's just you've finally got it.

Power Rangers are a type of American Toku Hero.

Mike, Daggeron and Lienbow are American Toku Heroes, but aren't Power Rangers.

[Aliques!!!]

-Tommy was also specifically called the white ranger.

-Morphing doesn't always equal ranger

- Those are sports teams. This is different. And if your analogy was true why didn't trakeena count mike as a ranger?

You're right Morphing does not equal Ranger, but Ranger=Morphing. and as for Trakeena; I don't know. typo in the skript, maybe she just doesn't like him. She didn't say "10 rangers with and a defender"

TYou're trying to be a smartass but Trakeena basically did what you just said. After the big multicolored pyrotechnics flash and the camera zooms out and they're all standing AS A TEAM during the LG/PRIS team up, trakeena says "10 rangers" even though Mike was there. She didnt even whisper it so you don't have to turn your TV up.

Calm down, it's all in good fun geez :P
and again she didn't say "10 rangers with and a defender"

Wow 7 to 8, hell of a point you got there lol.

Just saying... it's there :)

We know for a fact not every ranger morphs. The psychos didn't morph nor did the cyborg rangers.

Yeah, they were also evil. A Parody.

-Mighty morphin power rangers having morphing in the name doesn't mean that everyone who morphs is a ranger. Is everybody who is mighty a ranger to?

I know Morph does not equal Ranger, but team+morph+join=Ranger

Sometimes its a warrior of a different type.

right.. that joins the team and becomes a ranger

[Jiemusu]

There were 11 American Toku Heroes and Trakeena labelled it as 10 Power Rangers. It's not rocket science. I can't see how you're not getting this, unless you're a troll.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

Why does she have to say 10 rangers and a defender? If you were right she would have just said 11 rangers.

Are you seriously willing to claim it was a typo in the script instead of admitting your wrong?

[Aliques!!!]

You realize you thinking you've gained victory out of this makes absolutely no sense right?

For two very important reasons.

a) Every hero in PR is an American Toku Hero. Power Rangers are a specific type of American Toku Hero.

b) You weren't fighting for Mike, Daggeron and Lienbow being a generalized status of American Toku Hero, you were specifically fighting for them being a specific catagory Power Rangers, which they aren't, as proven by the show.

So no, I can't see how you're right at all. If anything, you're wrong. And anything you feel you've claimed victory on is something I've pretty much been saying anyway, it's just you've finally got it.

Power Rangers are a type of American Toku Hero.

Mike, Daggeron and Lienbow are American Toku Heroes, but aren't Power Rangers.

Okay you're clearly not getting what that meant at all.

A) I know what you meant, the "yes" was a joke.
B) I"m saying you're thinking too much about the name. The group could be called anything in the whole world if you're a pert of it e.g. Mike, Daggeron, Lienbow, you are one of them if there the power rangers, the rabid monkey squad or the sunshine granola gang. It's a name. It's not the title it's the cause.

[Legendary.]

If Lord Zedd joined the team would he be a ranger when we clearly know he's not?

[Aliques!!!]

There were 11 American Toku Heroes and Trakeena labelled it as 10 Power Rangers. It's not rocket science. I can't see how you're not getting this, unless you're a troll.

A troll? what are you,4? It's an internet forum.

Why does she have to say 10 rangers and a defender? If you were right she would have just said 11 rangers.

Are you seriously willing to claim it was a typo in the script instead of admitting your wrong?

Wow you guys don't get sarcasm at all do you. It's one line from one episode from several years ago. it's lost in the eether

[Legendary.]

Okay you're clearly not getting what that meant at all.

A) I know what you meant, the "yes" was a joke.
B) I"m saying you're thinking too much about the name. The group could be called anything in the whole world if you're a pert of it e.g. Mike, Daggeron, Lienbow, you are one of them if there the power rangers, the rabid monkey squad or the sunshine granola gang. It's a name. It's not the title it's the cause.

That makes no sense because Masked Rider was a Masked Rider. By your standards Wolf Warrior would have to star in the Daggeron show to not be considered a ranger...

[Jiemusu]

A troll? what are you,4? It's an internet forum.

*sigh*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

Okay you're clearly not getting what that meant at all.

A) I know what you meant, the "yes" was a joke.
B) I"m saying you're thinking too much about the name. The group could be called anything in the whole world if you're a pert of it e.g. Mike, Daggeron, Lienbow, you are one of them if there the power rangers, the rabid monkey squad or the sunshine granola gang. It's a name. It's not the title it's the cause.

Doesn't make them Power Rangers, it just makes them part of a Power Ranger team, but they aren't Power Rangers

Say you had an ethnic food restruant, such as Indian or Chinese, and one of the employees is a caucasian, they are part of a group based around a certain ethnicity, but it doesn't mean they are that ethnicity does it?

I'm just throwing analogies out there.

Long story short, you're wrong. Trakeena wasn't being sarcastic, if Mike was a ranger, she would have included him when she was counting them, simple as.

Dialouge from episode >>> One fan's unsupported opinion

[(^_~) FaCe It]

A troll? what are you,4? It's an internet forum.



Wow you guys don't get sarcasm at all do you. It's one line from one episode from several years ago. it's lost in the eether

Yeah, one line, from one episode, that proves you wrong. The only reason why it was said years ago was because the person in question was active years ago.

I guess calling the episode to the tenth power was a typo to right?

[Jiemusu]

Y'know what, I'm just gona call it that he's not taking it seriously and he's baiting for a negative response. My say is, don't feed him.

[Aliques!!!]

That makes no sense because Masked Rider was a Masked Rider. By your standards Wolf Warrior would have to star in the Daggeron show to not be considered a ranger...

Did I once say Masked Rider was a Ranger?

and no he just has to never be a part of the power rangers. or leave them, but he didn't so he's a Ranger.

*sigh*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)



Doesn't make them Power Rangers, it just makes them part of a Power Ranger team, but they aren't Power Rangers

Say you had an ethnic food restruant, such as Indian or Chinese, and one of the employees is a caucasian, they are part of a group based around a certain ethnicity, but it doesn't mean they are that ethnicity does it?

I'm just throwing analogies out there.

Long story short, you're wrong. Trakeena wasn't being sarcastic, if Mike was a ranger, she would have included him when she was counting them, simple as.

I'm sorry I don't know internet lingo, I don't bother to learn it because it's irrelevant to real life... and only when I"m playing Halo online :P

Your resturant analogy doesn't make any sense, it's not the same at all you are in a team of employees not an ethnic team. If the team were called the Italians or what ever. then regardless of ethnicity, you would be an Italian because of your membership in the team.

who doesn't like a good anthology

I didn't say Trakeena was being sarcastic, I was being sarcastic, wow reading is the future America.

Yeah, one line, from one episode, that proves you wrong. The only reason why it was said years ago was because the person in question was active years ago.

I guess calling the episode to the tenth power was a typo to right?

You're misunderstanding me completely. Forget I said typo, it was a joke. I don't know why it says that or she said this, but it's irrelevant, he's a ranger because he's in the Power Rangers.

[Aliques!!!]

If Lord Zedd joined the team would he be a ranger when we clearly know he's not?

If he joined the team, fought, morphed he's a Ranger.

[Legendary.]

No he's not in the Power Rangers. I said Masked Rider because it's the same situation as the rest of these people in question.

All of these people are in the show Power Rangers, they're powers differ from the power rangers. If they were all Power Rangers they would be a Power Ranger i.e: the Phantom Ranger. He was called a ranger because he was a Power Ranger. It's there, they called him a ranger. If any of these other people were rangers they would have been called a ranger and not have been left for speculation.

[Aliques!!!]

No he's not in the Power Rangers. I said Masked Rider because it's the same situation as the rest of these people in question.

All of these people are in the show Power Rangers, they're powers differ from the power rangers. If they were all Power Rangers they would be a Power Ranger i.e: the Phantom Ranger. He was called a ranger because he was a Power Ranger. It's there, they called him a ranger. If any of these other people were rangers they would have been called a ranger and not have been left for speculation.

They're in the show, they're on the team, they're a Ranger. Phantom Ranger had separate powers.

Did Masked Rider ever officially join the team?

[(^_~) FaCe It]

You're misunderstanding me completely. Forget I said typo, it was a joke. I don't know why it says that or she said this, but it's irrelevant, he's a ranger because he's in the Power Rangers.

It says it because Mike is not a ranger. You are wrong and the show is right.

[Aliques!!!]

It says it because Mike is not a ranger. You are wrong and the show is right.

... he said as he crossed his arms and pouted... then his mom gave him some chocolate milk :P

answer this question yes or no:

Were Mike/Daggeron/Lienbow part of a team called the Power Rangers? [note: this is not asking whether he is or is not a power ranger]

[-DMS-]

I voted that they are not rangers and well o had my reasons already posted earlier lol

[(^_~) FaCe It]

... he said as he crossed his arms and pouted... then his mom gave him some chocolate milk :P

answer this question yes or no:

Were Mike/Daggeron/Lienbow part of a team called the Power Rangers? [note: this is not asking whether he is or is not a power ranger]

I said already in an earlier post that he was apart of the team. But working with them doesn't make him a power ranger. Trakeenas quote proves it.

If space ranger zhane went to fight with the lost galaxy rangers for a year, he would still be a space ranger and not a lost galaxy ranger.

And my mom didn't give me chocolate milk, yours did.

[Legendary.]

Stop with the insults. It's not gonna get you anywhere. If you want an open and honest discussion cut it out.

[Legendary.]

what about the twins stat?

[OriginalGreenRanger]

ok literally speaking they werent rangers.........................

but in our hearts and minds as fans dont we want them to be rangers?

[ForeverBlue]

I went with the last one...Mike is a ranger but not Daggeron & Leanbow

[Jiemusu]

I went with the last one...Mike is a ranger but not Daggeron & Leanbow

Even though Trakeena openly labelled 10/11 toku heroes as power rangers even though Mike was present? Seems a bit of an unsupported opinion on impulse, if you don't mind me saying.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

Stop with the insults. It's not gonna get you anywhere. If you want an open and honest discussion cut it out.

If someone attempts to insult me I will do the same back.

[Jiemusu]

If someone attempts to insult me I will do the same back.

Can the e-hard man routine. You should know better than that. If someone is trying to get a rise out of you, you walk away from it, otherwise they've succeeded in frustrating you. If they know it's easy to provoke a flame out of you, they'll carry on. Flaming is breaking a rule, if they're breaking a rule, why should you have to too? It's very juvenile to take the "2 wrongs make a right" approach. If they get punished for it, you'll only give the staff more reason to punish you too. If you see someone flaming or insulting, just use the vBulletin report feature, and let the staff take action and deal with it. It's there for a reason.

Also it's probably worth noting Legendary is being made a mod, so you'd be wise to take advice.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

Except for i'm not frustrated and your not a mod so why are you lecturing?

[SilverTigerRanger]

Mike is most definitely a Ranger but Lienbow and Daggeron are not.

[Jiemusu]

Except for i'm not frustrated and your not a mod so why are you lecturing?

Because a mod did tell you to stop.

Mike is most definitely a Ranger but Lienbow and Daggeron are not.

Even though Trakeena openly labelled 10/11 toku heroes as power rangers even though Mike was present? Seems a bit of an unsupported opinion on impulse, if you don't mind me saying.

Copypasta.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

Then why don't you let him handle it. It's not your place to tell me what to do or to be a mods side kick. Most forums call that shadow moding or backseat moding.

[Jiemusu]

I wouldn't exactly try to take the moral highground here, a moment ago you were the one that basically thought it was right to openly flame someone back if they try and insult you, like it was the right thing to do.

I'm not being a mod's sidekick. I'm just casually saying it's wise and intelligent to listen to something that's already been said to you by a staff member. If you wanna take the road to being an ass, fine. I was just reminding you for your own benefit anyway.

[Legendary.]

Face it, you do understand that's how interesting conversations get stopped right? I like this conversation and discussion and I am open to a bunch of ideas. I don't want to see it get closed or close it myself if I am assigned to this section.

Continue your discussion but cut the insults and pointless arguments...ALSO

Mystic force still for the win.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

I wouldn't exactly try to take the moral highground here, a moment ago you were the one that basically thought it was right to openly flame someone back if they try and insult you, like it was the right thing to do.

I'm not being a mod's sidekick or backseat modding. He's already told you, I'm just saying it's wise to listen to something that's already been said. If you wanna take the road to being an ass, fine. I was just reminding you for your own benefit anyway.

Yes, he said what he said. Which means you don't need to come in and say anything. It's not your place. Especially when Aliques!!! posts indicates to me that his insult wasn't meant as insulting, but rather just to lighten the mood. I wasn't offended by his jab at me and I doubt he was offended by my jab back. You two shouldn't get worked up over a couple of mama jokes.

[Legendary.]

Wasn't getting worked up. You saw what I wrote. You acknowledged what I wrote and that's that. If it continued beyond my warning...then we'd be getting worked up. :]

And Mike isn't a ranger. He's clearly the most obvious of the bunch.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

Wasn't getting worked up. You saw what I wrote. You acknowledged what I wrote and that's that. If it continued beyond my warning...then we'd be getting worked up. :]

And Mike isn't a ranger. He's clearly the most obvious of the bunch.

I mostly meant him.

And yeah, Mike is the most obvious out of the bunch. I'm wondering if those who voted that Mike is a ranger actually watched the video.

[Legendary.]

I mean I used to be ignorant towards the situation and counted Spandex as the measuring stick but it's clearly different now.

I think the one thing we need to look at are the words morph and transform for some reason. I just feel like because they morph isn't good enough. Morphing is what the Power Rangers do, transforming is something the others do.

[Jiemusu]

If we wanna get technical, if morphing was a specification, then Mesagog is a ranger too.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

Yeah, people seem to think morph = ranger. But instead of separating terms morph and transform, i've always said that we need to look at what they are morphing into as opposed to the act of morphing itself.

Also, people need to understand that just because these random warriors fill in that 6th ranger void doesn't mean they are a 6th ranger. Thats like calling Adam as zeo ranger 4 a black ranger because he filled in that void or Alyssa a pink ranger.

[Jiemusu]

Also, people need to understand that just because these random warriors fill in that 6th ranger void doesn't mean they are a 6th ranger. Thats like calling Adam as zeo ranger 4 a black ranger because he filled in that void or Alyssa a pink ranger.

Someone should sticky this exact quote as a seperate locked thread, or make it an annoucement.

[Legendary.]

Lol or make it their sig?

[Jiemusu]

Lol or make it their sig?

I thought that, but due to this board's limitation, that only includes VIPs.

[Legendary.]

I mean that pretty much should have been said since the beginning.

[Factor White]

Can you explain those figures for me? Because, as far as I know there are only 4 White Rangers, 2 Silver Rangers (Ryan was Titanium...there is a difference people), and where the heck did you get 2 Purple rangers, when there was never 1??:confused:

That's what Im trying to say, Ryan was Titanium not Silver.


No, Titanium Ranger is officially a silver ranger, it's the metallic element, not the colour that's different, same as the Mercury Ranger, another silver (In Mercury's case, it had a double meaning, as he could transform to liquid like the metal, and also Mercury is also his home - I assume not the one in our solar sytem thiough! LOL).



Dude, Titanium and Silver are two different metals, both have different color(suits), Titanium is not Silver.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

but in our hearts and minds as fans dont we want them to be rangers?

No .

[Aliques!!!]

Yes, he said what he said. Which means you don't need to come in and say anything. It's not your place. Especially when Aliques!!! posts indicates to me that his insult wasn't meant as insulting, but rather just to lighten the mood. I wasn't offended by his jab at me and I doubt he was offended by my jab back. You two shouldn't get worked up over a couple of mama jokes.

Thank you and no I did not take offense to your jabs, I expected it back, and I am deeply sorry if I've posted anything to offend anyone. I was however in a bad mood the other night and may or may not have been taking out in my posts.

But this discussion was getting pretty juicy and I'd hate for it to turn into one of those threads that ends up falling apart because of bickering. It seems my sturdy opinion has been conflicting the sturdy opinions of others on this thread and I've made my point and I'm not trying to change yours, but merely have you see my reasoning.

[Aliques!!!]

ok literally speaking they werent rangers.........................

but in our hearts and minds as fans dont we want them to be rangers?

Yes..

[(^_~) FaCe It]

Well, I am having a hard time understanding your reasoning. We have an episode title (to the tenth power) and a direct quote from the show that proves magna defender is not a ranger and those are facts that you have not provided any real answer or argument against and yet you still claim he is a ranger. Your best argument against those two facts were "I don't know why it says that or she said this, but it's irrelevant, he's a ranger because he's in the Power Rangers"...but how is trakeena not counting him as a ranger and a show title excluding him as a ranger irrelevant?

[Aliques!!!]

Well, I am having a hard time understanding your reasoning. We have an episode title (to the tenth power) and a direct quote from the show that proves magna defender is not a ranger and those are facts that you have not provided any real answer or argument against and yet you still claim he is a ranger. Your best argument against those two facts were "I don't know why it says that or she said this, but it's irrelevant, he's a ranger because he's in the Power Rangers"...but how is trakeena not counting him as a ranger and a show title excluding him as a ranger irrelevant?

Because if he's in the team the Power Rangers... He's a ranger... by your reasoning he's not a part of the team, in which case, I'd agree completely.

So if we agree, he's not a part of the team, then we agree he's not a ranger

[(^_~) FaCe It]

Why does he have to be a power ranger to be apart of the team? If Maid Marian joined robin hood and his merry men is she all of a sudden a man?

[Aliques!!!]

Why does he have to be a power ranger to be apart of the team? If Maid Marian joined robin hood and his merry men is she all of a sudden a man?

You're misunderstanding I never said in order to be a part of the team you have to be a ranger, but being part of a team makes you a Ranger

and the maid Marion thing? She's be called a a Marry man, but she would not become a male. Just like being a ranger doesn't mean you can't be a knight or a defender. you're just both

Paul McCarteny is a knight, but he's a musician, Michael Gambon is a Knight, but he's an actor.

That's what your saying is like saying He can't be... Italian food because he's... chicken and not pasta. it's irrelevant. It all fits in the group.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

Ahh Okay, I think I understand what you are saying now. You don't think that these guys are actual rangers. Just representations of the team making them by default a ranger. Sort of like how Michael Jordan was apart of the Chicago bulls. He wasnt an actual Bull he was a person who was just representing a Bull. Problem with that though is the fact that a ranger team isn't like a traditional team because the name comes from a different perspective. When they say power rangers they literally mean power rangers. Not representations of it. Which makes power rangers and extra warriors a team in tandem with each other.

Basically, Power rangers are like burger king and extra warriors are like french fries. Just because French fries come in a bag that says burger king on it (just like extra warriors come in a show called power rangers) next to an actual burger doesn't mean its a burger. And french fries being apart of the combo (just like extra warriors are apart of the team) at burger king doesn't make it a burger. Its not both, its its own thing while apart of the same combo.

[Aliques!!!]

Ahh Okay, I think I understand what you are saying now. You don't think that these guys are actual rangers. Just representations of the team making them by default a ranger. Sort of like how Michael Jordan was apart of the Chicago bulls. He wasnt an actual Bull he was a person who was just representing a Bull. Problem with that though is the fact that a ranger team isn't like a traditional team because the name comes from a different perspective. When they say power rangers they literally mean power rangers. Not representations of it. Which makes power rangers and extra warriors a team in tandem with each other.

Basically, Power rangers are like burger king and extra warriors are like french fries. Just because French fries come in a bag that says burger king on it (just like extra warriors come in a show called power rangers) next to an actual burger doesn't mean its a burger. And french fries being apart of the combo (just like extra warriors are apart of the team) at burger king doesn't make it a burger. Its not both, its its own thing while apart of the same combo.

Right, but I think it's be batter represented by using McDonalds because the word Burger isn't in it. The Fries are still food, just a different kind of food from a different place of origin and perhaps a different title, but still food

By the way this thread should win some kind of award for analogies, we're friggin' awesome XD

[(^_~) FaCe It]

I used burger king in the analogy because I meant the restaurant to represent the show title and the actual burger to represent the rangers. The title of the show and the main attraction both have ranger in the name just like the title of the restaurant and the main attraction for the restaurant have burger in the title....

[deathstrike]

If the hero is heavily armored then he or she is not considered a ranger. Atleast thats what I thought.

[Legendary.]

When a Red Ranger uses his battelizer he's not a ranger anymore?

[jemnai]

They are just they are next level of ranger powers ie Armored Class much like Phantom Ranger.

[Legendary.]

So still rangers...

[Jiemusu]

By the way this thread should win some kind of award for analogies, we're friggin' awesome XD

Y'know, I was thinking the same thing lol.

[Aliques!!!]

I'm going with Legendary here, there still a ranger reguardless of name or the amount of armor they wear.

Y'know, I was thinking the same thing lol.

Right? :p

[Jiemusu]

Lol y'know, this is a question that'll plague the community for years. And it all comes down to people's own definition of the word ranger.

But the show did state, through Mystic Force, that knights and rangers are different, and Lost Galaxy labelled 10 rangers of two team cores when Mike, the 11th, was present, but different perceptions of the word ranger get in the way of that, even though the show gave us a clear indication.

[Aliques!!!]

Lol y'know, this is a question that'll plague the community for years. And it all comes down to people's own definition of the word ranger.

But the show did state, through Mystic Force, that knights and rangers are different, and Lost Galaxy labelled 10 rangers of two team cores when Mike, the 11th, was present, but different perceptions of the word ranger get in the way of that, even though the show gave us a clear indication.

You know I'm going to leave at that.

[Legendary.]

Lol y'know, this is a question that'll plague the community for years. And it all comes down to people's own definition of the word ranger.

But the show did state, through Mystic Force, that knights and rangers are different, and Lost Galaxy labelled 10 rangers of two team cores when Mike, the 11th, was present, but different perceptions of the word ranger get in the way of that, even though the show gave us a clear indication.

I agree.

It's like that Power Transfer discussion.

[Gauntlet_Ranger]

Unless the word Ranger is in your name you are not one

[White Ranger Power]

you know i agree with aliques though it's kinda lik in sports if Michael Jordan goes from the bulls to the wizards he is no longer a bull now he is a wizard hope that makes sense a clears everything up.

[(^_~) FaCe It]

you know i agree with aliques though it's kinda lik in sports if Michael Jordan goes from the bulls to the wizards he is no longer a bull now he is a wizard hope that makes sense a clears everything up.

Yeah but the difference is the rangers are called the rangers because they are literally rangers. The bulls aren't called the bulls because they are literally bulls. Its like the ninja turtles. That dude in the hockey mask worked with them all the time but he was never a ninja turtle.

[Legendary.]

Ninja Turtles weren't considered rangers either...weird ain't it?

[Jiemusu]

you know i agree with aliques though it's kinda lik in sports if Michael Jordan goes from the bulls to the wizards he is no longer a bull now he is a wizard hope that makes sense a clears everything up.

Lol you like your Michael Jordan examples don't you.

[White Ranger Power]

yea I'm from Chicago what do you expect jiem?